"Series"[]
Should the word "series" really be in a page's title if it's not actually in the title of a series? - VaderFan01 (talk) 22:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Please wait for a response from someone in the staff before you perform a move. Mrmichaelt (talk) 23:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Waiting on Paul's input as this is his section. I'd say while I don't view this as earth shattering (this is Ghostbusters Wiki and not Doctor Who Wiki) I'd suggest going with "Franchise" whenever there is more than one series. Devilmanozzy (Talk Page) 00:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed and in addition it would also cover spin offs and what not in the future. So we wouldn't have to deal with a name change again.Mrmichaelt (talk) 01:05, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed and in addition it would also cover spin offs and what not in the future. So we wouldn't have to deal with a name change again.Mrmichaelt (talk) 01:05, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Waiting on Paul's input as this is his section. I'd say while I don't view this as earth shattering (this is Ghostbusters Wiki and not Doctor Who Wiki) I'd suggest going with "Franchise" whenever there is more than one series. Devilmanozzy (Talk Page) 00:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Paul emailed the following:
- There are two issues at play here. The first, is whether all articles need to use the *exact* title of a thing, or if there should be some leeway for a little bit of descriptive text. A good example of this is this 10+ year old article:
- The official title of the box set is "The Real Ghostbusters: Complete Collection". Do we retitle the article to that? Do we go with a more descriptive "The Real Ghostbusters: Complete Collection TimeLife DVD Box Set" or something to that effect? How do we distinguish this from any future DVD box sets?
- Related to that box set is this article:
- Do we remove "DVD Box Set" from this article since that phrase isn't, technically, in the title of the thing; though it's related to the TimeLife set?
- And then, thanks to me, we have the use of the word "Series" in this article about the SERIES OF DVDS Sony released in 2016 and 2017:
- Do we remove "DVD Box Set" from this article since that phrase isn't, technically, in the title of the thing; though it's related to the TimeLife set?
- The official title of the DVD series is "The Real Ghostbusters: The Animated Series", but that doesn't work for the purposes of the Wiki. If we called the page "The Real Ghostbusters: The Animated Series DVD Series", visitors would think it was about all DVD releases of the show. So, when I created the page, I went with a descriptive title that included the studio and release year. Also, I used "Series" (based on its previous usage in the references section) since there was no need to make TEN individual articles for all 10 DVDs in that line.
- The second issue is the use of "Series" in the references section.
- For starters, the use of "series" predates my time on the references section. I have no idea who first started using it. At first I didn't understand it, but then I realized that whoever added it meant it as a way to say "these are all of the references in the ENTIRE SERIES", instead of just one single episode.
- As far as I see it, VaderFan's line of thinking - Should the word "series" really be in a page's title if it's not actually in the title of a series? - is irrelevant. It doesn't matter whether "series" is in the title or not. The first issue I brought up, with the DVD box sets, shows that a word doesn't need to be in the official title of a thing in order to permit it's usage in an article title. Though, again, we may want to rename some of those DVD articles... but that's a discussion for another day.
- So, the issue here is how should we title individual reference articles.
- For references in a single episode, we have these:
- The official title of the DVD series is "The Real Ghostbusters: The Animated Series", but that doesn't work for the purposes of the Wiki. If we called the page "The Real Ghostbusters: The Animated Series DVD Series", visitors would think it was about all DVD releases of the show. So, when I created the page, I went with a descriptive title that included the studio and release year. Also, I used "Series" (based on its previous usage in the references section) since there was no need to make TEN individual articles for all 10 DVDs in that line.
- The formatting there is "show title: episode title", which is a commonplace standard that I, personally, picked up in my "travels".
- We could definitely drop "series" from titles, as VaderFan already did for these:
- The formatting there is "show title: episode title", which is a commonplace standard that I, personally, picked up in my "travels".
- But there would be instances where we need a descriptive word. As an example, these two Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles articles that include "series" and a year to distinguish one from the other:
- So, I guess, as long as it's understandable that the article is about all references in a TV series, it's okay to drop "series" from the title.
- And there you have it. Devilmanozzy (Talk Page) 01:52, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- In the grand scheme of things the term "Series" isn't all that important. Maybe this matters to the fans of the said "franchise" as it were, but all I see here is a lot of work just to be a bit more in line with something that isn't all that important to begin with. We could change things, but why? Fair question. How much time do I have to re-write the wrongs of the world. Not enough. Devilmanozzy (Talk Page) 02:01, 27 February 2021 (UTC)