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Minor Issue

In Grease and Killjoys you noted a interview. I found the site with the interview was gone, but GBFans noted it, so I threw up a reference to GBFans respective pages on the episodes. I didn't talk about using references but please look at Grease and how to do it. I really need to add this to the Community Portal.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  14:39, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

My apologies for that. I knew I shouldn't have updated that late since I forgot to add the link. So references are exclusively for external links, I take it. Thanks for the fyi. Mrmichaelt 00:55, January 2, 2011 (UTC)


Question about Noname tag

I just set up a page that required the Noname tag and I noticed the ribbon is black, thus covering up the text explaining what the tag is in the first place. Know why this happened? Mrmichaelt 02:36, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

What articles show this as a problem? Because I can't reproduce the issue.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  10:28, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
Very strange. I only have this problem when I'm using Google Chrome. It's fine when I look at the pages on Mozilla Firefox. Mrmichaelt 02:08, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Screengrab of issue

Fixed it. The same issue happened to the other Templates last month. the bgcolor was set for black. Oddly it was not showing up on Firefox tho. Strange.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  02:22, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. But yeah, really weird. Do you think it some edit across all of Wikia that messed up the setting? Mrmichaelt 02:27, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
Well usually Firefox and Google Chrome work pretty much the same. Now if you use IE....Your own your own then. Infact my laptop was attacked via IE, and I now can't use the browser, which is fine with me, as they are outdated and half of the flash stuff wont work right with IE.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  02:39, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

ISBN's

Comic Book template now has a ISBN field. Take a look at IDW Publishing Comics- Haunted Holidays TPB at the bottom of the infobox. Anyways I hope the new feature will help the print items.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  15:31, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Cool! Mrmichaelt 02:26, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Some Interesting addons/changes

I am seeing into updating the whole "canon" thing. I have began moving and adding new pages for this section. I am looking towards wikis based on transformers and star wars for this new direction. The underbelly of Ghostbusters Wiki was never focused on during my time here, so now that I'm thinking about it, I'll get it looking more developed to fit with content here.

One new page to look at... Ghostbusters Wiki:Canon Family Tree. It is only started, and it is sort of my pet project as of late. I plan on including comics/novels/and toys. What do you think so far, and suggestions?  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:29, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Cool. Looks like a great start. The only thing that screams at me is Slimer!. The only reason is right now, I've begun working on another side project since I've 'finished' my Tobin excel file for now, a Timeline excel. So right now, I toward the end of RGB and looking at Slimer!, I thought about it; its place in the timeline and is it all canon (like most fans have). I figured most of the Slimer! episodes, if canon, would take place between the last RGB episode (before the post GBII era) and Ghoststers II. Like it sort of entails, what is Slimer up to while the Ghostbusters are out of business and Slimer! shows this, from his POV, hence more 'Looney Tunes-ish.' And one of the neat things is, "Cash or Slime" establishes not only Chilly Cooper's birthday but states the year as 1988. Plus, the show established Sleaze and Dweeb. So on the family tree, I'd put Slimer! on the solid line between RGB and EGB, in my opinion. Mrmichaelt 07:47, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
I have no plan yet, but I would like to do a better job stateing at what degree a media item is and isn't canon in respect to other items. Real Ghostbusters does try to tie itself to Ghostbusters II which gives it a semi-canon connection. Slimer cartoon is in a similar boat on this.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:54, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
Idea, the color tone of lighter to dark, which suggests importance. Maybe it would work. Second idea is to make the lines different colors to show degree.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:59, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
I like the second idea more i.e. Slimer! only had ties to RGB so it'd be its own unique color. But, I have to go check out Transformers wikia to see an example. Mrmichaelt 08:13, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
Ah, so this is sorta the endgoal for you: Transformers Continuities Mrmichaelt 08:18, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
Actually no wiki did this Family Tree thing (well online type anyways). But I see them in books and things when explaining canon stuff, so I grabbed a normal wiki script on wikipedia for family trees, and am building it myself. I meant earlyer, that other pages will be grouped together and I am planning on redueing the Ghostbusters Wiki:Community Portal. For a example of that.... look at these two wikis: Bleach wiki Community Portal, Transformers Wiki Community Portal (not the Wikia one).  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:25, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
BTW, I didn't know Transformers Wiki(a) had one up sort of. I'll be looking at that as reference for sure!  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:28, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Franchise Wiki

This is still in the development phase, but check out the new wiki I'm working on, on the side. Franchise Wiki is a wiki talking about canon and developing and understanding universes and such things. I'm sort of looking for help from users that have worked with such issues before. Seeing as your background is about DC universe type issues, maybe you'd dig the wiki.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  18:47, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

Neat idea. I'm going to be busy the next week or so because All-Star Superman is releasing on DVD/Blu-Ray so I have to do a substantial update to my website. So maybe next month, I can help out. And until then if you want to pick my brain about it here, I'm up to that. But keep in mind, it's the DC animated (multi)universe that I'm primarily versed in. Mrmichaelt 04:00, February 21, 2011 (UTC)


Future Projects

Been brainstorming future mini-projects for the near future and wanted to ask you somethings:

1) Because of my ongoing requirement to reload the wiki to get things to load, I can't quite get to the point where I can lock a thread. Could you lock the forum thread I made for the Tom Waltz interview. I sent him the Q's last night but but the love of all things holy, I was unable to get the drop down menu to appear so I could lock the thread.

2A) When we do get the answers back and everything's done and a new article for the interview is made, is it possible to give it some special designation like "Article of the Month"?

2B) Should we create a new Category for this new article, i.e. "Interview"?

3) Are there plans to create new Badges, specifically for Ghostbusters: Sanctum of Slime? Mrmichaelt 06:05, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

1. Done.
2. Well the plan was (plans are always subject to debate) to put up a banner on the main page which will have a picture of Tom and a character from the video game with text explaining that we have a interview up. The category for the article I guess can be interviews. Not sure. I didn't categorize the two over at Filmation Ghostbusters.
3. It depends more on the content of the game and how many new ghosts there really are. It is clear that there are a number of people that will be looking at this game with a degree of importance (maybe even as canon or possible canon) so as the date gets closer hopefully more gameplay will be shown online. I feel we should wait til the game is atleast about to be released first.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  12:27, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
1. Thanks!
2. That works. I only asked because I figured every article should have a category but since I asked about both Sanctum of Slime and Infestation, there would be related categories added to it, too.
3. Agreed. It's going to be a interesting river to cross when the time comes. Mrmichaelt 07:18, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

I see you edited it.

I see you've edited some of my previous work on The Real Ghostbusters episode Knock Knock. Not that I'm complaining but you could have inform your were going to change it. I would have helped you know.

But you version is much better. But thank you anyway.

It's no problem at all and thanks. Mrmichaelt 05:15, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Checking in

Been taking a vacation and I have another 4 days to go. I have been on here tho, checking edits and such. Anyways, I'll be back in 4.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:51, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope the vacation's been great so far. We only had one major vandalizing event during your time off. Been making great progress on the timeline project; Movie Canon is done and I'm about 2/3 complete on the Animated Canon one. Mrmichaelt 06:15, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Tom Waltz Interview

I received the interview answers from Tom Waltz. I've got all the formatting ready to post the interview, all I need is your go ahead. I wasn't sure if you wanted to make a banner for it first or not. Let me know, asap. Thanks! Mrmichaelt 02:52, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Go ahead and start it up. I'll have a banner shortly.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  02:54, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
Done. Interview with Tom Waltz. I also locked the article since it doesn't require edits by regular members. Mrmichaelt 03:23, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
Next issue, banner. I did this so far. Need fix ups suggestions.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  03:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Banner

Looks good to me. Really great work in a short amount of time! Mrmichaelt 04:08, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
Had second thoughts after making and uploading the banner, but I am happy with it also. I went ahead and added it to the interview at the top, and moved your credit to the introduction paragraph.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:38, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
Also I'm still reading through the interview itself, Not sure yet how I feel about his answers, but its a good read. Good Questions!  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:40, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm pretty proud of it. Which answers in particular caught your eye? And he's up for doing another round of questions if we still have follow up questions or more questions about the story after we play through the game. Mrmichaelt 09:17, March 22, 2011 (UTC)
I am now not sure what to say to Tom. I know its not his fault for this fallout, he did a great job with the story, as you did with the questions. I would like a second interview with Tom if its not about the game. He has done great work with the comics, and now that this has happened (I'm sure he knew nothing of the reuse of ghost designs or the lack of Online CO-OP), so for his benefit and because he deserves better for what he has done a second interview would be good. But can you ask him for a pic, we want a different one the second time around.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  19:59, March 25, 2011 (UTC)
I'll send him an email about prep for second interview and an image. Should get a reply at the start of the week. Mrmichaelt 04:37, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Agenda Policy (Important Read)

Agenda Policy is a very Important Policy that addresses who we as a wiki are, and who we are not. I want all current administrators to read it over, and to sign it. (do this: "*~~~") I am doing this in light of my recent events and to show fellow fans that indeed we are a open and friendly place. It may seem a bit over the top, but I see reasons for it.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  22:41, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion: Policies on Home Page

For all the policy pages (Article Editing, Discussion, Speculation, Agenda), I think we need to give them a column on the home page. Right now, where the "Ghostbusters Wiki Social System" is on the upper right side of the page would be a good place, imo. It'll be the first thing users see, and therefore users won't have any excuse for violating the rules blatantly like they have been doing the past week up to today. When I saw the latest two (the video one you deleted and the Uniform one I deleted, the image of the Containment Unit blowing up in the first movie came to mind. Mrmichaelt 07:49, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

I like the idea to a degree, and yes thats a good place to it. But the Policies themselves still need work.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:09, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sanctum of Slime Script!

Dude, I feel like I got the last Golden Ticket for Wonka's factory but Mr. Tom Waltz got the go ahead from Atari and I know have a 3rd draft of the Ghostbusters: Sanctum of the Slime script in my possession. What do you think, should I hold onto it until July to post it here or make an exception and post it now? Mrmichaelt 01:47, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

I at this point have no clue. Why did he give it out? There are still legal things I'm sure tied to it, so.... Also how much is different/new in it from what is in the game? I'd almost say, we include it with the second interview. But that is just my first thoughts.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  02:12, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
I asked him. I figured it was a 50/50 shot. Atari said it was fine to release it so, we're not getting sued or anything asked to take it down. I'm on page 5 of 38 and this draft has some things that were left out in what we see in the game and that clears up some confusion and a couple lingering questions. Mrmichaelt 02:21, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
Now off-hand I'd say if we do have permission, we are given the right to at least post what wasn't covered in the game itself. I'm still however, not sure if posting the whole thing would be ok. If we did, I'd for sure protect it (Hot stuff indeed).  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  02:30, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
It's definitely a tricky subject. I always thought a wiki as a reference for sources not the origin point of them. See I wish we also had the ability to put in spoiler tags like with in forums, too. I mean if anything, it's going to help me with the second interview and adding/editing SOS articles in the future, in the least. Or, alternatively, once checking with Waltz, I could instead hand off the script to a GB website such as Spook Central since Paul already has his collection of scripts from the movies, animated series, and TVG.Mrmichaelt 02:53, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
Maybe Chad at ghostbusters.net would want it. He is planning on relaunching his site in April Link to promo. I have been in talks with Chad, and he has always been a neutral place for all Ghostbusters Fans (unlike other sites) and I'll inform him of this. I didn't know anymore about Paul and his site. Me and him, and pretty much I feel he is nothing more than part of the GBFan thing at this point. But hey its your call. Check this out announced that the comics is going monthly.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  03:27, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
Paul has been helping me with the list of entities and recommended me to someone that is also trying to obtain the list. Plus, he added a link for the Waltz interview on his SoS page. So I consider him a great person. I'm unaware of the the GBFan thing you're referencing, though. But, I'll email Waltz and ask him if its kosher if I can give the script to Chad and Paul.
Yeah, it's freakin' awesome! I'm glad they went with Dapper Dan. The only other person I'd want for an ongoing would be Tristan Jones. It is a good day. Mrmichaelt 03:56, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Just wanted to talk

Your theories about the ghost being the Ghostmaster's minion are pretty strong. Come to think of it, the Ghostmaster may have had a hand in some of the Ghostbusters' previous missions. After all, he was originally going to be the main antagonist to make it consistent with most shows back then as they didn't really have a specific recurring nemesis(and if they continued with that concept, they probably would've planned for a third episode where he escaped the Containment Unit).

I am aware that Samhain, the Boogieman, and even Stay Puft appeared more often than the Ghostmaster, but the main thing was that the boys in gray never had a specific archenemy, and in a way, the Ghostmaster was one of those ghosts that were pretty close in fitting that category. And why else would he be called the Ghostmaster? He is the master of ghosts!

I also have to say you are pretty good with theories and the timeline. No way I could've done such a thing by myself. It would be hard to pay attention to every little time-related detail.

SonofSamhain 05:45, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

That would have been interesting if the staff set up Ghostmaster's existence/hand in things before his first appearance but I like the theory, overall. A bit of a nitpick on my part, but I never got why he remained in the Containment Unit. I figured he'd recharge his power in there and well, blow up the ECU, and escape.
As for the multi-limbed ghost, it's a toss up. I mean, I got my theory that hinges on a lot of speculation and implication, but your suggestion it gets its own page has its merit, too, since it makes a 'cameo' in the Extreme Ghostbusters credits. To be honest, I might have been more on edge that day and a little more defensive than usual. Working with others on a wiki is still a new thing for me.
And thanks about the timeline. I was rather surprised and humbled when Devilmanozzy suggested it be added because its a rather divisive issue with fans. I've made them before and working on two currently for other animated series and I'm not sure how I got the idea to research those little hints and details like full moons and holidays but I'm glad I did. But trust me, it takes a lot of time (even years) and stubbornness. Trust me, I wanted to quit many times on the timelines and I even quit on my version of the Spirit Guide twice. It took me essentially 12 years to finish that file. Ha ha, I'm even close to convincing myself to write up an all-inclusive Classification System. Mrmichaelt 06:24, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
I am not discouraging you, but I am not really sure an all-inclusive class system will work, as the movie and cartoon stuff are again different.

MOVIE CLASSIFICATIONS:

  • Class 1- Non-senitent vaporous manifestation
  • Class 2- Incomplete manifestation(e.g., floating sheets, crawling hands)
  • Class 3- Unidentified spirit of a deceased person, or the spirit of a deceased person unaware of the current time.
  • Class 4- Identified spirit of a deceased person, or the spirit of a deceased person that is aware of the current time.
  • Class 5- A malevolent but relatively harmless specter that is vaguely humanoid in appearance and/or behaviour.
  • Class 6- Animal spirits
  • Class 7- Highest class level, godlike entity with immense power

ANIMATED CLASSIFICATIONS:

  • Class 1- The weakest entities
  • Class 2- Harmless entities
  • Class 3- Malevolent, but still harmless
  • Class 4- Same as Class 3
  • Class 5- Same as movie version
  • Class 6- A being of unlimited power, but still weak enough to be captured.
  • Class 7- Similar to position in movie classification, except it is possible to trap Class 7 ghosts, when in the movies they could only be dispersed or forced back into the ghost world.
  • Class 8- Very powerful entities, but could still be captured.
  • Class 9- So powerful, they are difficult to trap(I remember in Simon Quaig's episode, Ray talked about trying to trap the horse, even though they didn't actually do it)
  • Class 10- Extremely powerful
  • Class 11- Extremely strong and powerful leaders of lesser spirits
  • Class 12- Even more powerful, but never actually seen. Many have speculated that The Player was a Class 12, but he said he was a class all to himself(whatever that means)
  • Class 13- Tenebraug was oddly weak when compared to Ghostmaster and the toy ghost. I mean, he was defeated so easily.

I also was disappointed the Ghostmaster never returned. As for recharging his power, it could be the Containment had special security features that prevented powerful but weakened entities from recovering their strength and getting the power to escape. Of course, there were some episodes where despite its size the grid would get too full, and it seems they made adjustments so it could continue to store more ghosts.

SonofSamhain 11:27, April 5, 2011 (UTC)

No worries. In the end, I'd have to look at my spirit guide file and my episode notes and look if there's a consistent pattern of traits and what not. If I can, the classification system would probably have to be Egon's version circa 1997/EGB. It'll just take a while for me to process everything and I'll probably have to set some assumptions and what not like I did with some of the timeline events.
Yeah, could be some sort of ectoplasmic dampening mechanism dohickey that Egon built in to keep the entities in a weakened state. I guess the reason I never thought of it were moments like when Surt made Siren hypnotize Slimer. But then again, that was an isolated case. Mrmichaelt 00:08, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


Monthly Ghostbusters comic

I received an email from Tom Waltz today and got the new advert for the monthly Ghostbusters comic, like the one that's on Proton Charging. If it's okay with you, I was going to set up a page for it and perhaps put up the entry on the main page. Mrmichaelt 02:31, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say put the image up on the Ghostbusters IDW Publishing Comics, so it is clear the series is coming. Tom wants the new comic book series to be embraced by the fans and that is why he sent it. No harm at this point posting it anyways, its up on other gb sites. Anyways, sorry I have been away a lot the last week. I also maintain "Superjail wiki" and the series second season just started. Been swamped over there.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  06:18, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, sounds good. After leaving this message, I concluded it'd be too hasty to start its own page and just made the update on the main page's news. And no worries, everything seems to be in working order. I'm starting to go back and update entities' pages that I missed (basically just going down the list on the Paranormal Database). I've seen some of Superjail. It's a...interesting show, heh. Mrmichaelt 06:30, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm getting ready to hammer away at converting the whole Paranormal Database to wiki-pipe tables as the shows are done. lol @ the Superjail thing, yeah its sort of a thing more on my art side. I like the style of animation. Nothing to do with Ghostbusters, so you don't need to approve. But they second season is underway so I have to maintain ship over there too.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  06:41, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Actually, Superjail and those Thursday night hospital and Eagleheart shows got me interested in Adult Swim again; aside from Venture Bros. I actually was recently wondering what happened with Superjail and got a little worried it was cancelled. Mrmichaelt 06:46, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
Funny that you brought up "Venture Bros" because they brought in Christopher McCulloch (aka:Jackson Publick) which was creator of Venture Bros to sort of help the show for a second season as Producer/Consultant. So far the reviews for the second season have been bad as Plot actually didn't matter to the fans, and when moving animation companys they lost some of the edgyness to the cartoon too. Personally I still dig the new shows, but I'm reading lots of negatives on the changes and they are pointing to Chris and adult swim.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  06:57, April 12, 2011 (UTC)
I'm the type that doesn't put much stock in other fans' ratings and prefer to watch the material first. So we'll see. Oh, and before I forget; I managed to get my transcript of the cut scenes and in-level dialogue from Sanctum of Slime published on Gamefaqs so that's another goodie to add to the wiki's SOS article come July when the spoiler limit runs out. Mrmichaelt 07:04, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ghostbusters Card Set?

I have been thinking about doing a series of art images for a card series based on Ghostbusters. I would be interested in doing collaboration which would have 70 cards designs and a back (default), and the cards (10 per class level) would cover a paranormal creature/ghost or events. (All drawings will be newly done)

I feel looking at your Tobin Spirit Guide work, you could help me greatly. I need someone to work on the information side of the project. Also, what all goes into the card series. List of ghosts and events also need help on. Anyways, I was wondering if you'd be interested in this project.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  21:32, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, sounds like fun. Mrmichaelt 03:30, April 15, 2011 (UTC)
I'll soon get back with you on this. I may need help with ideas for Class 1's -Class 3's. They are the most "simple" of paranormal and therefore will need a "Ghostbustersish" touch to the choices. Like for one, a Class 1 could be a dancing toaster (aka GB2).  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  00:45, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
Cool. You know where to find me. I'll think about it in the mean time. Class 1's may be tricky since they're sorta boring (i.e. ball lightning, sounds, slime, etc.) Mrmichaelt 01:08, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah class 1's/class 2's are tricky, but it would be incomplete without them. Over the years I have heard people wanting a project like this done, and I too want it. So, its best to try to do this complete and right. Thats why I want your research/help on this so it will be good from the first Class 1 to the last Class 7.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  01:32, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
This Project will begin today on my side, making a working list. I will then pass the list along here (or at DeviantART or GBFans if you wish) and you can nick pick which ones you don't like and if you have suggestions for other paranormal to cover. Note: We want paranormal you can cover the following (class descriptions and the whole CDI thing) and you feel comfortable explaining. We should at some point cover what info will be needed per card. I didn't talk about it and I should have. My got feeling looking at mostly the Ghostbusters: The Video Game Official Game Guide, We will need the following:
  • Name
  • Category/description
  • abilities/powers
  • Summary/TSG stuff/history
Anyways, that is what I got. Text size/area for text needs to be considered at some point also. What do you think so far?  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  14:56, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
Sounds excellent, a list and framing it in the TVG format will be a great jumping off point. As for how well work on this...depends on what level of secrecy you prefer for this project. Also, I haven't, but have you ever used that 'Note' option on Deviant Art? Or in addition to our pages here on GB, is it possible to create a new one in addition to Profile, Talk page, Blog Contributions, and Following? Mrmichaelt 03:52, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

New ideas for the front...

I recently discovered sliders at Touhou Wiki and am currently looking into making our own Template:Portal/Component/Slider. This I feel may get our front page out of being so crowded and make it more free and open. Other news is that Wikia has started plans for Chat rooms for each wiki. Read more here. I'll address our take on this over here soon. I am thinking we're not going to use the chatroom much.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  00:45, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

I like the concept (but for me like with Editing, I have to reload the page several times, lol) of the sliders. I don't like the idea of a chat room. It defeats the purpose of the Talk Page. The Talk Page centralizes issues to a specific article and gives the discussion a static and physical place to refer back to. Mrmichaelt 01:01, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
The Sliders are not working for you on your side? Please explain. As for the chatroom, wikia tried out a thing called "shoutbox" 2 years ago and it was not liked here back then either. I am mostly only going to address the chatroom, saying it is for fun only, and don't expect any of us to moderate it. I wish Wikia would stop trying to add to the wikis, and leave us alone to build. I sometimes feel like all I do is maintain the "image" of this wiki. Sometimes, I'd like to edit articles too, and I'd wish wikia stop interfering with the flow here.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  01:23, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
The Sliders don't slide, the button doesn't work so I have to reload the page. The slider's are those blue directional buttonsm right? Mrmichaelt 01:35, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
The arrows switch the pages. Currently there are only 2 actually slides and the only difference between them is the ghosts are not in the second slide, only the ghostbusters.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  01:40, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
I meant when I tried the Slider on the Touhou Wiki you provided a link for. Sorry for the confusion there. Mrmichaelt 01:43, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reasons your idea for an all-inclusive class system may work after all

There are some similarities in the class systems. Both class systems established that Class 5 creatures were vaguely humanoid in appearance, haivng a tendency to slime everything, and in some cases being gluttonous in nature. Both also dictated that Class 7 ghosts were gods and demons or very powerful ghosts. They also kind of mixed and matched class information exlcusive to one another.

Ghostbusters novelization: I am aware that this book predates RGB, but it is worth noting how they use Class 9. Makes me wonder how they busted it. I have two solutions to that: First, the unlikely solution- Gozer was really a Class 10. I have known people who speculated that Gozer was really a Class 10, but I actually think he was a Class 7. The other solution I came up with by reading the original script- It was possible to trap Gozer, they just destroyed him instead because he was too elusive. Note that in the original shooting script, one of the busters says "Forget trapping it. Let's just blast it."

Animated Classifications: In Rollerghoster, they classify the ghost as a Class 6, wihch would be appropriate since it was a collective of animal ghosts and in the West End Role-Playing games, Class 6 entities were said to be animal spirits.

Once more, I'd just like to point out a few minor differences. In the movies, Class 7 was the highest class level and they were too powerful to trap, instead being disposed of by either destroying them or forcing them back to the ghost world. In the animated series, it was possible to trap a Class 7 and there were even higher classes of ghosts, with Class 9 entities being difficult to trap(as Ray described in The Man Who Never Reached Home, and they destroyed(or banished) Proteus instead of trapping him. They managed to trap S.I.D.N.E.E.(who was labeled as a Class 10) using a giant proton cannon and a giant ghost trap fashioned from a fire truck and a garbage truck respectively.

All in all, it is an interesting idea. And like Devilmanozzy and you, I am one of those Ghostbusters fans who likes the entire franchise as a whole. Everything has its pros and cons.


Movie Canon:

PROS- Funny lines, cool busting montages, lots of stuff.

CONS- Gray uniforms(only becuase they bring a lack of individuality, which may be why they made the uniforms multicolor in the cartoons)

Animated Canon:

RGB PROS- The animated characters are more fun to draw, a lot of interesting episodes and references to the films. While the show seemed to start jumping the shark by Season 3, there were some episodes in th elater seasons I particularly enojyed and found easy to compare to the earlier episodes: Elementary My Dear Winston, Halloween II 1/2, and The Bogeyman Is Back (unlike most fans, I actually tolerate the Junior Ghostbusters. I see them as a half-baked attempt in making the show more relatable to children. They can be annoying at times, but it was cool how they got us to see Boogieman and Samhain again)

RGB CONS- Like it or not, many of the later season episodes are a bit nonsensical and lacking in quality. The one episode of the show I absolutely despise is Venk-Man. The only thing good about that episode was the ghosts they used. I like Stay Tooned even though Sammy was annoying. I knew exactly how Peter felt, except I hated Sammy more because I hate it when people say "kiddo". I couldn't help but smile knowing that he wouldn't be botheirng anyone anymore now that he's in the Containment Unit.

EGB PROS- A lot of the ghosts were pretty interesitng(my favorites were the laughter vampires, the Mirror Demon, Achira, and Tempus. I kind of liked the new equipment, though that may be because EGB was my introduction to the franchise.

EGB CONS- Very few references to the movies(If Stay Puft appeared on Extreme Ghostbusters, it would've been so awesome!) Only references beyond variations of classic lines like "We Came, We Saw" and "Disaster of Biblical Proportions" was how Tenebraug's orb is from Moldova, formerly known as Moldavia, where Vigo is from. Last, but not least, it only lasted one season. I would've loved to see more episodes. :(

SonofSamhain 12:11, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed the Class 9 in Richard Mueller's novelization, as well. It also mentions Ray invented three different types of Ghost Traps. I know for a fact that in the RGB cartoon there was one episode where Egon made a new trap but it was so powerful it trapped itself (it was a 3 second scene gag, but still noteworthy). So along with S.I.D.N.E.E.'s capture, I think it is possible to trap up nearly all classes, it just depends on the strength of the trap and the entity. They managed to trap the Ghostmaster, a Class 11, by exerting most of his power.
As for Gozer, the GBI and Marvel UK Comic CDI lists it as a Class 7 whereas the Spengler's Spirit Guide lists Stay-Puft as a Class 10, implying Gozer as a Class 10, too. Which works out because the Toy Ghost in "Ghosts R Us" is a Full Magnitude Class 10 and was said to be the most powerful entity they encountered so far. I think at the time, the trap was too weak against a Class 10 and Gozer was sorta super charged from the summoning.
I've been meaning to brush up on my biology but I've been dancing around an idea to structure the CDI's by Order (like Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Genus, Species, etc.). The higher the order, the more Classes the CDI lists. So like the GBI would be a third order because it has 7 classes listed and the Spengler's Spirit Guide one would be a second order because it has 10 classes listed. If I ever get to writing my own version, it'd be first order, listing 13 classes. I like the idea of there only being one-of-a-kinds for Class 11-13 (Ghostmaster, Player, Tenebraug) but I'm sorta stuck on what class the Old Ones like Cathulhu would be other than the fact it defies standard classification.
But yeah, it's possible...heh. Mrmichaelt 01:09, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

I need Your Help on Voting Policy

I have hit all the things I think need to be addressed. I need a second set of eyes to proof read and fix things.
Please look at the Following pages:

Well Anyways, I put up the first suggested item to vote on too.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:35, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

They look good to me. Mrmichaelt 05:00, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Bot: Please Read Asap

Please take a look at the May 15th edits list. I'm not sure if it's legal for a user to create a second account for a bot to "fix" redirects.Mrmichaelt 03:40, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know his story, but he is not part of VSTF or a Wikia Helper, therefore we can ban him if we deem him a threat. I gave him only a 2 hour block cause I deemed the edits as annoying as they are, were done in good faith.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:49, May 16, 2011 (UTC)
Exactly. I thought he may have been but wasn't entirely sure. I'll keep an eye out as this new week starts up. Thanks for the assist. Mrmichaelt 06:10, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sigh "Slimer" images stolen

There from spookcentral Therefore I'll remove them.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:40, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

All of them (the movie and video game images) or just the movie ones? I can take some screen grabs and add them tonight. Mrmichaelt 05:12, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
No the ones uploaded by User:Kablammo191 tonight are all stolen. I have the Jr. Ghostbusters and (Slimer!) Egon and (Slimer!) Peter done. Need a (Slimer!) Ray and Winston to replace this users.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:27, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
Got it. Looks like you have it under control. Mrmichaelt 05:40, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Important Image Policy added

As much as it pains me to have to actually make one (Sigh Common Sense...Where have you gone?!), I made a Image Policy. The only thing new is I go slightly more in detail about what is not permitted here, and I Warn of Bans/Blocks for those that Violate. What that means to you is, if you find any of that here currently happening, you have the right to block/ban them. Try to work with them, but if need be, you can block them. I am not going to bend over backwards at this Wiki anymore for foolish stuff like stealing images. They can take it to photobucket or imageshack.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Couple questions.
1) In terms of working with them, you mean both registered and unregistered users?
2) So essentially, if the Talk Page back and forth goes sour and it obvious the user doesn't care, that's the only time I can ban them?
3) Then if it's a repeat customer doing the same thing, it's an automatic ban without going to the user's Talk Page? Mrmichaelt 09:13, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
1/2.In regards to this, you may be able to work with registered ones on they talk pages and I advise it, but yes if it ain't working or they are ignoring you, you have every right to ban them. Unregistered ones are most likely a instant ban, because usually they don't know anything about talk pages or they return with a different ip.
3....If they repeat after a warning, yes ban them. Neither one of us are here to babysit. If they learn, then they can go elsewhere and use a different ip to make a account.
However, I think stating they get a warning on the image policy page suggests chances, that would be counter productive to the idea of enforcement. That and if they do aim to be bad, we wont have to go thru strikes. I did not like dealing with at new user the last few days, and one reason I did was there was no official Policy on images. We got one now, and if they can't find it, well I don't know what to say. Heck, GbFans doesn't go to the trouble we do to be supportive to new editors. We need some room to keep out straight trouble makers.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  11:26, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Witches page

Thanks for editing the Witches page which I made.Kablammo191 11:50, June 4, 2011 (UTC)

No article at this wiki is owned here. I hope you don't mean this in a rude way.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:26, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
You're welcome, Kablammo191. Mrmichaelt 07:31, June 5, 2011 (UTC)


IDW Ongoing Series

I've been collecting a lot of news and links that either deal with future issues or news that relates to the overall series but have been leaving them in the Issue One page. I've been wondering if we should start a blanket page for the ongoing series set up the way previous ones were set up such as NOW comics. Therefore, we can put all news and make a list of the issues since before with IDW it was just mini's and one shots so it was warranted then. What do you think? Mrmichaelt 03:36, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

I know one thing, canon wise it would be easier. Do what you think works best. The monthlys in my mind is almost a different series from the one offs. Only the last two one-offs are even close to what the monthlys appear to be heading.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:27, June 13, 2011 (UTC)
I will get started on the new page later today. I need to get some sleep. But on the canon-thing, Tristan Jones did bring that up in a round about way. For his material, it's setting all the IDW comics as canon with each other and the only things they take as canon with the IDW comicverse are the two movies and The Video Game. It's in one of those links I found. So it seems like it's up to the artists and writers to embed references to all the other stuff like with the Halloween one shot, in particular. Mrmichaelt 10:02, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Clean up.... big one

I had suspected user PrincessPussyCat0891 had stolen images from other sites, but tonight I found where he stole some.... GBFans. So after find a good 10 stolen images, I have deemed all his images were stolen either from GBFans, or Spook Central or other ghostbusters sites. I am deleting all his images (well there may be one or two savable) but too notable are some of these. So don't be surprised by the missing images, but don't worry, I'll fix those holes up with new screen caps I'm taking from the movies. So please be patent with this process. Keeping Ghostbusters Wiki creditable is my mission here. We do not need stolen images here. Most of the images I'm deleting look bad anyways. GBFans really has a terrible scanner over there lol. We can do better, and we are going to!  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:54, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, thanks for notifying me of this development. Let me know if and when I can be of assistance. Mrmichaelt 05:44, June 21, 2011 (UTC)
Well, It is somewhat heartbreaking to be deleting this stuff, but in the end of the day, looking at the images, they are mostly able to be screen capped again in film instead. The sooner this is dealt with, the sooner we're look the better. I think we're need stiffer rules on what is uploaded too. Some this I'm deleting are plain silly.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:54, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Crossing the Streams: Episode 16...

Crossing the streams Podcast: Episode 16 has a roundtable with Tristan Jones, Erik Burnham, Luis Antonio Delgad and Dapper Dan.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  11:22, June 22, 2011 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the head's up. Mrmichaelt 03:15, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Lothgar

I know that he was trapped in Busters in Toyland, but there is ambiguity concerning whether he is now permanently trapped in Toyland or if they brought the trap with them upon exiting. While they did destroy the clock and seal the portal permanently, it not only would've been to prevent Lothgar from returning, other possibilities could be to prevent someone else from entering the barren world or to prevent it from falling into the hands of another entity. And it was really unclear whether they left the trap behind or brought it with them when they got out of Toyland.

SonofSamhain 06:58, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Fine with me. I'm rather focused on making image galleries for the first 13 episodes of EGB, so I'll re-watch the ending of this episode some time this coming week and check it out. Mrmichaelt 07:53, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

The Designs are Ready for approval

Sigh, this has been a annoyly long process getting this done, but I have it up to be voted on. Please approve it on Ghostbusters Wiki talk:Voting on Matters and then to Ghostbusters Wiki:Voting on Matters we go to get the votes it needs. I can't begin to tell you how much time and effort went into the background. Funny thing is most of it may get released on deviantArt that didn't make it to the background. I had double that amount of ghost made.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  01:27, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your hard work. I will go vote now. Mrmichaelt 02:33, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Location Infoboxes

I noticed the other day that you made an Infobox for Locations and edited the Sedgewick. Is it cool, if I do the same for the rest of the Locations? Mrmichaelt 02:33, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

I still think I need more to it. Are there any fields you think should be added?  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  03:39, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
Off the top of my head, I'd say some physical information at least. Here's what I got:
  • Address
  • District
  • Town
  • Owner or Current Owner
  • Founded
    • ex. 1867 A.D. Mrmichaelt 03:57, July 2, 2011 (UTC)
Added: Address, Owner, and Founded. District and town I think are covered under Address.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:24, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Garrett Miller toy

Today, you added two images and information to Garrett Miller's article. I decided it would be more fitting on the Trendmasters EGB article and moved them there. I also left a link to this Trendmasters article on Garrett's in the Trivia section. If you plan on making further additions to the Toy lines, please see: Ghostbusters Toys

Also please use short statements on captions for images. You may elaborate further in other sections such as History or Notes. Mrmichaelt 06:28, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

I am worried about the images submitted here, so I'm emailing the said submitter Jonathan Shyman. He is a known collector of Trendmaster prototypes, so my guess is this account is by Jonathan Shyman as well. We're for now just leave the images be, but I'm hoping Jon will confirm with us of this. Jonathan is also known for prototypes of GODZILLA: THE SERIES toy prototypes and Lost in Space Prototypes and I also see he submits to a yahoo group ClubTokyoC -Animated "Godzilla the Series. I hope he'll return my email.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:50, July 5, 2011 (UTC)
He emailed back and confirmed it is his account. So I'm looking into getting things proper and given better credits and such. I'll work him on this from here on.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  20:40, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm so Sorry

I'm so sorry I missed today's wiki abuse. I took the whole day off from the Internet for the one time in the year and I just got online at 9:30 pm to see all this. Really proves the point unregistered users should not be allowed to edit. Mrmichaelt 07:25, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well I was there and I dealt with it. One thing that is true, is the bigger the wiki gets, the more of a target we become. That being said, some of our more thought provoking edits/conversations come from unregistered users. You gotta take the good with the bad sometimes.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:54, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
Second attack.... Ok we talk options to deal with what I'm calling the "Greenville Ghost Trapped Vandal". Both Isps... (98.84.79.148) and (74.248.230.237) are from Greenville, South Carolina. (Look it up yourself at topwebhosts.org-ip-locator). Tonight when I get back online, I'll be reading on how to report on VSTF, which is Wikias Spam and Vandalism task force. We have a vandal that can't be reasoned with.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  00:09, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
I'm glad there is a governing body of sorts specialized with this activity. Hopefully, they can be of help with this unregistered user since I would imagine it would be more difficult than dealing with a registered user. As a head's up, I will be gone all day on Saturday for a wedding. God forbid the wiki gets attacked again, but is there a way to temporarily lockdown the whole wiki until you finish conversing with the VSTF? Mrmichaelt 02:33, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
I have addressed our wikis issue here. Don't worry about it. This happens to ever wiki sooner or later.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  03:02, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, seeing the user's response, I chimed in to pick his/her brain further. I think we need to at least consider more pro-active measures in addition to our usual ad hoc method of edit reverts. Mrmichaelt 03:09, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
Sigh. Best thing to do is when you see him start, ban him/her, and then use Rollback on all articles this person edited. I have talked to RandomTime in private and he says there really isn't much more wikia can do. I guess we're have to suck it up, and continue the good battle to the foe is tired and gives up. Til this person gives up, keep the block and rollback buttons handy. Sigh.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  03:54, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

6 Templates to delete?

Noticed Yard created 6 new templates yesterday. Since they don't seem to be required, should they just be deleted? Mrmichaelt 06:34, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

No clue what they are for. I usually try to work with whatever people post here, but no clue what any of those templates are for. I am more concerned about getting the GB:SOS open (removing Spoiler tags).  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  06:43, July 22, 2011 (UTC)
It slipped my mind that it is Friday already for some and editing can commence on SOS! Mrmichaelt 06:49, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

The Greenville Vandal Strikes Again, and Hello PDF of GB:Supernatural Spectacular

Yes we were attacked again today by the same vandal from Greenville (they changed internet carry it seems tho). Zak undid everything, so its all good there. I am currently working on getting a pdf of the book Ghostbusters: The Supernatural Spectacular. I have no clue which site will take the pdf tho. First thoughts are Spook Central tho.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:56, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Cool. Is there a difference between the Mass Market version and that harder to find version? My first thought would be Spook Central, too. Mrmichaelt 05:14, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
"Mass Market version and that harder to find version"... I am not sure what you mean. I am making the pdf, I scanned each page one by one.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:17, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
Off the top of my head, I think there's two versions/types. The harder to find and more expensive one has the no ghost logo flipped Euro-style whereas the mass market one has the regular logo on the cover. I couldn't remember if that was the only difference. I think Paul/Spook Central would know, too. Mrmichaelt 05:41, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
It is of the US/Caanada version. The content inside the book versions is the same tho. I am more interested in the text in the book anyways. I want it out there for fan fiction, and for us fans that bought the book but hate the small print. Sorry but the text size in these books is small. I rather have a large zoomed version. Lets save the day/eyes. I'll bug Paul Rudoff soon. :P  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  06:40, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Help on GB:SOS

I am still unable to get screen caps for last Areas of level 10, and all of 11 & 12. If you could focus there first, it would be best. I'll hit the first levels good. We're meet up somewhere in the middle. Just a plan. Also, if possible could whole screen caps of Level 11 and 12 be done for bio. Thanks!  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:29, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

Sure thing. I'm doing characters first of course, then levels and cinematic grabs. When I get to levels, I'll work backwards so to speak starting with 12. Mrmichaelt 04:35, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
If you need anymore images from anything levels 1-10 (first half) do the {{Picsneeded}} tag as you are doing now. I can get them as needed. I really wish I could beat level 10, as I know I seem ill prepared for this.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:40, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
The only images I have left for characters are the Cult of Dumazu and Loretta so if you don't have all the entities yet, we're going to need them. I'm going to try and get all their articles down tonight. Mrmichaelt 04:53, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
Go ahead and start both articles when you wish, I'll grab the two images of Loretta in the level 1 story part, and For the Cult of Dumazu, there is the pan shot in story level one plus the one of the leader. I'll get all 4 when I have a chance.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:22, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
No, no. I meant the images I have left that are of characters is Loretta and the Cult. I don't have anymore images of the rest of entities in the game that need articles created. Mrmichaelt 05:29, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
Heard you loud and clear this time. Yeah, start them up and I'll see what I can do... ;)  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:34, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
Roger that. Mrmichaelt 05:47, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
Question: We leaving possessed human, possessed orderly, and possessed wheelchair with patient in separate articles on in the possessed human article only?
Same question with Muck Master. Separate article or put info in Construction Worker ghost article? Mrmichaelt 07:08, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
For now, deal with them as seperate. But, possessed human goes with the others. I'm right now looking into the issue. I am forming a better plan for dealing canon and stuff. But til I have all the details, we're doing these the way they are. I need to be off for a hour btw, my laptop gets hot whenever I play GB:SOS. Not sure why, but its never this bad with GB:TVG. GB:SOS must somehow eat up ram. sigh. Construction Worker ghost is what we'll put it. It does the same things as the Construction ghost and stuff. We need to get a screen cap of the Loading Screen talking about the name however, and reference to it and say also known as.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:20, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
Tonight I be focusing on making sure a image or 2 are on each of the GB:SOS character pages. Then who knows. Note, if you have any info per character in IDW's version of the ghostbusters, there are sections under secondary canon History to put information for all 4 ghostbusters.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  01:50, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'll be doing cinematics and plot for levels today/tonight.
I was meaning to ask about that. I'll start adding more IDW stuff after SOS is done. Just wanted to catch up with Infestation content yesterday. So from now on, we're gonna add 'secondary canon history' to others like Janine and Stay Puft, too? Mrmichaelt 01:55, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, and any characters that show up for now are Secondary canon history. While that may seem belittling, it is a pretty sure thing that whatever happens in the comics will be ignored if a third movie happens. I am debating on the Ghostbusters: the Video Game version and how we speak of them. My issue is what to call them in the character articles and so forth. I think they should be separate from each other, as storys are different somewhat. But what to call each section thats a bit shorter than "Ghostbusters: The Video Game (Realistic Version)" and so on.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  02:06, July 27, 2011 (UTC)
Felt rather ill today, so I'm only doing a few edits. But I wanted to ask your thoughts on a couple things
1. For the Paranormal Database, how should we add the Sanctum of Slime entities. All of them, or just the ones exclusive to the SOS game and ignore the ones reused from The Video Game?
2. I'm planning on adding the Sanctum of Slime bits to the All Canon Timeline. On my own, I've tested it and it doesn't contradict anything. But since Sony feels the prime universe/Movie Canon consists of GB1, GB2, and TVG, I felt I'll only add it to the All Canon page. Thoughts?
3. This is just in the brainstorm stages, but what do you think about me adding a 4th canon to the Timeline project, for the IDW comics? Mrmichaelt 06:42, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Here on the left is the straight scan, and on the right is a "maybe done" result.

I'll first give you a little bit of a progress report on the conversation of GB:TSS. Paul Rudoff is on board with the idea, so I have spent quite a bit of time on it. The conversation processes has been a bit more time intensive than I first thought. But I'm getting pretty far as 1/3 of the pages are done completely now, and most are at the last stage. So thats why I've been quiet...
Answering Question #1; The AKA section will work for letting people see its about the same creature (For now anyways). Add all exclusive paranormal tho.
Answering Question #2/and Question #3; As you know with the DC universe stuff it's guess and check with this sort of thing. We never know how this will all pan out no matter how in touch we were with Sony. Canon is a changing thing. Star Wars sees re-canon all the time and Star Trek.... :0 . Do what you feel will work the best. My feeling is the comic is said to be including or atleast nodding to GB:SOS being canon and same with the video game. It feels like its own canon to me, and like I said before, I am betting Sony will forget all this when GB3 is made if ever done. I say build a canon around what Tom and the guys at IDW are doing. I'd laugh if they came down here to read it to check canon corrrectness. lol. Art makes Canon, and Canon make more art?! Sorry, but it would be funny if it happened, "Can't a guy dream?!".  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  19:40, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
Cool, thanks for the status update.
Roger that.
I hope they do check out the wikia in general, heh. I'll start the IDW one in the comic weeks but I still have to read The Other Side and Displaced Aggression first. Mrmichaelt 02:43, July 29, 2011 (UTC)


IDW Project

So the past week I've been doing IDW Comics stuff and I came upon a small idea. Can we have a category for IDW Locations? Aside from the Firehouse and Camp Oconda, each issue seemed to have hit on at least one new location with enough meat and a back story to warrant an article and new category. It also occurred to me I have no idea how to create a new category, is it the same as making a new article or do I just add one when I'm editing an article? And I'm feeling really happy about the wiki, right now, idk it just looks awesome today for some reason. I can't believe it but I'm coming up on one year since I joined up and started adding content. But I digress, new category? Mrmichaelt 06:29, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

no reason not to. Go ahead and start one. I need one to get the category set up.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:10, August 7, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, will get started on them. Will add some images on Sunday. Mrmichaelt 07:25, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for catching Peter in Sweet Revenge

I didn't notice because in the past episodes of Slimer!, the spud himself was the only one who's link was not updated.

SonofSamhain 15:09, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

  • You're welcome. Yeah, I always try to check the recent changes list before signing off the Internet. Mrmichaelt 04:33, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Tobin's Spirit Guide Wiki?

Tobin's Spirit Guide Wiki would serve as a launch board for understanding the class system and using it in non ghostbusters canon. I am going to have policies put in place to address issues, but the base class system will be used of 7 classes. It would have to be updated to reflect with other types of monsters, but the base would have environmental class 1's, object possessions and partial entities class 2's, ghost/humans class 3's, known ghosts/humans class 4's, other worldly creatures class 5's, animal based entities class 6's, and godlike deities as class 7's. the articles would seek explaining the supernatural from logical point of view, and explain how to deal with such entities. This will not be based on ghostbuster equipment, and I want only the RPG game to play a serious influence on the wiki. I also don't want to just copy from here or elsewhere, this wiki would be using logic and reasoning. Anyways, what are your thoughts on this idea?  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:01, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

  • Sounds like a neat idea to me. As an example, you mean using your concept to determine if Beetlejuice would be a Class 4 or a 7? Mrmichaelt 08:34, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and explain his behavior /powers. Clearly based on what I know, he'd be a class 4 but anyways.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:40, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
That's cool. I doubt anyone else thought of that before. I'd offer more than simple responses but I've been burning the midnight oil the past 3 days updating the Displaced Aggression comic's content around this wiki. Mrmichaelt 09:07, August 28, 2011 (UTC)
No hurry on this, as I have a few things I have to do daily, including dealing with ThunderCats Wiki. Seems like I'm babysitting over there more than anything else. The good editors don't want to take the lead over there, and annoying fanboys want to take it over so they can basically destroy it with relationship stuff.
Anyways, I need to do policies over at Tobin's Spirit Guide Wiki so if we get other editors, that they will understand what the wiki is for. I will have to do for the first time ever, a Religion Tolerance Policy which will state the wiki's content is to remain neutral on the issues. This has been a issue elsewhere before, and due to the openness of the content, rules will need to be in place on such things.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  09:23, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Check your DeviantArt Notes

Got some news.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:33, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Gotcha. Mrmichaelt 07:56, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Template:GCT

Template:GCT is a interesting template that acts like the wiki tables as it can hide text/images. I encourage you to give the template a few tries on articles. It isn't perfect but it is very useful.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:52, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

We should so consider using this template in conjunction with the spoiler tag such as...with the upcoming first issue of the ongoing comic. Mrmichaelt 05:34, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
The issues with the template that may arise are the basically it is a table itself, therefore anything that is also a table may get in conflict with it. (a Table in a Table... not good). A Spoiler tag is a pretty cool idea. I don't know tho, my reason for holding back spoilers for a timeframe is actually so it can sell as well as it can. I still like a spoiler policy that blocks people for using content to new things. We don't want to hinder the comic series or anything else media content driven.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:44, September 16, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, that's true. I was more thinking about a spoiler tag like what is used on forums. But you have a point, the spoiler policy was written for a reason. It's been working well so far, as long as I've been registered. Mrmichaelt 05:52, September 16, 2011 (UTC)


Non Canon

With the release of the Ghostbusters Video Slot Machine by IGT is a fine example of this. While I doubt we'll do long lists of this sort of things on the character pages, it will likely need to be addressed on actual pages that are of content seen as Non Canon.

New Categories

How about "RGB Locations" and "EGB Locations" categories? Thought just occurred to me tonight. Mrmichaelt 06:02, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

  • Umm. You made a category tonight "Vehicles" when there is already one called "Vehicle" Mrmichaelt 07:31, September 18, 2011 (UTC)
I am replacing "Vehicle" with "Vehicles" so it fits with other category names.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:13, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Editing Slider

Template:Slider List/doc is a Documentation article which covers what files are tied to the Slider seen on the front. I have protected all pages tied to this. Anyways, new section is on Panel 0 which will be where it will remain. Other panels are starting to fall in place.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  22:05, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Another "Special" message

Check notes at deviantART.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  06:08, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

More goodies

I found something online that will blow your canon timeline a new one. Check your DeviantArt Notes.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  11:09, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Stop What?

On my talk page you told me to stop editting and read the community portal. First of all, I have read the community portal. Secondly, your message appeared abrubt, rude, nonspecific, and unhelpful. I am not sure if you meant it to be so, so I thought I'd let you know how it was received. I am unsure if the message was just a general suggestion, or if you think I made an incorrect edit. I recognize that you are an admin who has spent countless hours building this wiki, but to send someone such a non-descript message is unhelpful. I am an avid editor on wookieepedia and not some newb. Receiving your message after the nice welcome from Devilmanozzy was really discouraging. Might I suggest you do not tittle your messages with "Stop!," or really anything with an exclamation. Also make sure you use 3 equal signs when you are trying to make a headline, not two. As it is I have 4 unformatted equal signs in my talk page (left there out of respect for you.)

I am sorry we got off on the wrong foot, and I hope it was not intentional on your part. I hope if we have any more communication in the future it will be pleasant. (since, once again, it is hard to tell intention of words on the internet, let me assure you that this is a sincere hope.) Feel free to continue the discussion if you desire. I am watching all the real ghostbusters in rapid succession right so I will probably be on here with regularity. IthinkIwannaLeiaWaddaUthink? 05:53, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

No, it wasn't intentional. I don't know what happened with the first message I left, there was much more there and I was unaware it was cut off. I'm sorry about that. But we have a specific set way we organize our articles here, as I'm sure most wikis do. Please look at some of the existing articles then compare them to your first edits with Turlock for example. As for Talk Pages, we use 2 equal signs otherwise when we get an email notification it thinks a different section is being edited. Mrmichaelt 06:13, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
I guess I'll say something, now that I have read over the articles in question and the histories of the articles. Also, since you promote your editing time at wookieepedia, I have went down there to read that too. (Link) From what I gather the issue was with article Turlock, and mostly with how you formatted the article. While it was suggested "Fixing article; New users read the Community Portal and Policies and familiarize yourself with articles before editing whatever you want in them", there is no current guideline for this sort of editing. However, "familiarize yourself with articles" part is true as shown with Toy Ghost. I also see a odd edit where you claimed Zonk was "(Mentioned only)" on Ghosts R Us, when infact there are pictures of him in the the gallery and on his own article from the episode.
I think at the end of the day, you came here thinking that since Wookieepedia was part of wikia, that all wikis by wikia have the same "local" rules. I have never even read the rules to Wookieepedia to know what is permitted and what is forbidden. What I'm sure of, is the wikis are quite different.
Ultimate thoughts: You in good faith made edits here not seeing how things are run at this wiki. It happens, and trust me, I know how it is to be questioned to death on edits. All is pretty much forgotten on the edit mistakes. We all make some. What I suggest you do is go ahead and read the Introduction page and then take a look at some of the policies listed on Community Portal. Let's start over, and try to work together here.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  10:33, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism 10/15/11

Just checked the wiki and took care of a vandal. Inserted profanity in place of content on a couple pages. Gave infinite ban. But the home page looks a bit off, the spacing on the welcome box on the right, could you take a look at it when you can? I think everything else I rolled back proper. Thanks. Mrmichaelt 01:24, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

I guess someone had nothing better to do in Flourtown, PA on a Saturday night. I pity this guy/gal more than anything. Must be hard to have nothing better to do than to come back to a wiki a year and a half later and vandalize it again (I gave him a year block last time). Quite a little man/girl that was.
I couldn't find a issue with the front page. No clue what you are seeing, tho recently wikia had started putting that ad/ads there above that.
Got less the 40 images left to clean up in the (book version) of GB:tR. No clue how Paul is fairing on the text version (which is being released spell checked). Maybe Monday for that novel is all I can say.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  07:27, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
Gbwikifrontpageoct16.jpg
Here's what it looks like. Mrmichaelt 06:56, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

They are ad spaces

Here it is with the ads. Yeah sometimes, even when signed in, I'm still seeing these ads and if you have ad blocker on, your still see the space.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  10:01, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
I see, I do have an ad blocker on. Thanks, I've never seen an ad that big in that space before. Usually I see the Welcome box is flush with the list of slides. Mrmichaelt 04:27, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

My Hiatus will be coming to a end

I have been busy with novel projects for awhile now. But After Ghostbusters: The Return, I will be doing work down here once more. I expect a final version of the physical book converted to pdf will be done in 2 days or so. As far as its official release, that will be Paul's call, tho I'm thinking its ok to share a link over at deviantArt so you can have page numbers and such to do references. The Return is most likely "non" canon in both universes, however it still will be a nice thing to cover. It has its fans too, and other than some bad grammar, the book is pretty good. Also, I have talked to Paul about doing articles on GB1/GB2 scripts (articles discussing differences from a script and the final movie) and Paul loves the idea. So when I come back to my normal status here, I will start articles for scripts.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:51, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Cool. I read through it once, and I think it has potential to have its own timeline page. But I still have to do a decent reading and note taking round and lately I've been trying to stick to a mini-hiatus myself after that big round of The Video Game edits I did, in order to also do work on my other online stuff. The script differences is an excellent idea. Right now, there's a few of that sprinkled around in various Trivia sections. Speaking of that, I just noticed a rather fascinating one (well to me anyway) for Ghostbusters II. Mrmichaelt 06:54, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
Check DeviantArt notes again. Just sent link.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  01:41, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
Understood. Thanks. Mrmichaelt 02:50, October 22, 2011 (UTC)
Check your DeviantArt notes. Just sent a minor question about it. Mrmichaelt 23:40, October 25, 2011 (UTC)

Halloween... focus tonight

I have hit When Halloween Was Forever, and Halloween II 1/2. You did previously Home is Where the Horror Is and IDW Publishing Comics- What in Samhain Just Happened?!. Tonight I'm hitting The Halloween Door, and from Slimer! Sweet Revenge. Hopeing to hit NOW Comics Vol. 1-17 and NOW Comics Annual 1993 (Both have Samhain in story).  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  01:30, October 27, 2011 (UTC)

Crossing the Streams episode 20

On CTS episode 20 it is revealed the comic 5 will be very important and will officially show there is no connection between the comics and RGB/EGB. Also, the comics are said to be based in the time period of late 93/94.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:13, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. It was a good listen. Though Mr. Jones may have said too much, lol. Mrmichaelt 08:02, October 31, 2011 (UTC)

Ecto Containment Chamber Talk Page

Could you check out the Talk:Ecto-Containment Chamber, as soon as you can? You've been here longer and may know the answer to the question I asked tonight. Then we can move forward with a possible rename. Thanks. Mrmichaelt 08:15, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I have been under the weather the last few days. I think it is the shift of temps where I am. :(  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  18:47, November 13, 2011 (UTC)
No problem, I've had similar issues. Mrmichaelt 04:42, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

GBFans thread on "Ghostbusters RPG Gateways magazine"

I really think this is a good read what Harry Bardwell posted at GBFans. Please read. (Thread Link)  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  02:12, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose. Wasn't Zakor working on the RPG stuff? Mrmichaelt 05:00, November 15, 2011 (UTC)
Zakor seems to be taking it slow lately. Not sure.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  00:17, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Edits

Hey, since I am doing a lot of editing lately, could you tell me if you see me making any consistent formatting mistakes that you have to clean up. I don't read most of the edits after I am done with a page so I may not notice the corrections myself. Thanks. And also, thanks for adding the blurbs from the dvd collection to the top of the page. I don't have the collection so I can't. Normally I just put the blurb from the plot section up top and then write a full plot. The offical blurb plus reference looks so much better at the top. Keep up the good work. And let me know if you see any patterns to my mistakes. IthinkIwannaLeiaWaddaUthink? 11:05, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

As an example, here's the History for the "Boo-Dunit" article: Boo-Dunit history which compares my most recent edit with your most recent edit.
I've noticed a few spelling errors like you did above, too, in your third to last sentence. Since you said you use Google Chrome and it doesn't have a spell check (I think, I'm not sure since I use Firefox and edit in Source mode). Perhaps, putting your edit through Microsoft Word's spell checker or rereading your edit 1-2 times before publishing may help with that.
Also, I've noticed you started to but be sure to keep the summaries in paragraphs in the Plot so it doesn't look like a giant blob.
Also noticed you do two spaces between sentences. I think that's a formal grammar rule, but here one space is preferred.
Take a look at how I changed the link for "Agatha Grisley's" in the first line of the Plot section. That's how those type of links are done here.
That's what I can think of right now. Hope that helped. Mrmichaelt 06:00, November 17, 2011 (UTC)
So chrome's spell check works in Source but not Visual mode. I mostly use source and re-read but I'll try to use it exclusively. Some typo's are always gonna slip through. We are all guilty of that.
I just learned here that double spacing during editing is collapsed into one space when the actual article is published in all wikimedia. So I can use double spacing after a period and you can use single and it will look the same when published. I have confirmed that holds true in Visual and Source editing here: (. . . . . ) and throughout the last paragraph.
Agatha Grisley's you are right on. I was just lazy. I kind of thought the hyperlink expanded to fit the whole word.
The only consistent changes I've seen so far is your changing of the intro. I really like your references in that section. Since I don't have access to the source, it looks like you'll have to continue adding that to all the articles yourself. I am usually just taking the original abbreviated plot that someone else wrote and moving it up there in the mean time. If there is anything I can do to make your edits of the intro summary easier let me know.
Thanks for your thoughts. Let me know if you catch anything else that is major. Keep up the good work and quick edits. I dont know how you guys have time to look up the pertinent info on every episode I edit, but keep it up. You and Ozzy might be a little irritable at times, but you are the most dedicated admins I've run accross in the WIkiverse. IthinkIwannaLeiaWaddaUthink? 09:03, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
I'm fine with adding the loglines myself. I'm also going to be adding in Equipment and Locations sections if they aren't in the article already. If you want to do that ahead of me, that's fine, too. I dabble in time management, it's something of an art form in my opinion. I've done a lot to the wiki so I do get protective and irritable at times. And thanks, in regard to that last line. Mrmichaelt 05:07, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reference Guidelines (Policy)

Besides the rename, I have also addressed (or at least tried to) the animated episodes. I like your input on this, and if it works for you or how to improve it. Reference Guidelines  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  03:51, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Works for me. I'm glad to see some elaboration in the Video Media section. The only one that I can think of right now is using screengrabs as References. For example, since the Prima Guide was erroneous in some of the Tobin scans, I took grabs of the entries and used them as direct links in a reference tag. Mrmichaelt 04:44, November 18, 2011 (UTC)
I think I hit that while adding more. I'm still adding stuff, but all this is to only add options to the plate. Still ironing out details, but a new tag {{Cn}} was added that does this.. [citation needed]. My aim is to make it easier to identify issues. Also, I'm hoping with these new reference procedures we can address canon issues on articles without so much shot in the dark type writing. I really want to come up with a way to reference video game levels/locations in games too. That may be under uncharted territory, seems even wikipedia doesn't touch it.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  03:48, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
Sounds good. As for video game ones, that may require further thinking. A straight reference could end up like giving a person directions to the shopping mall (i.e. to the left of the first hall, go right, then shoot the back wall to get to the artifact). I remember discussing this type of thing with either you or Paul before. There has to be a system in the video game wikis. Mrmichaelt 06:42, November 30, 2011 (UTC)
I have looked at many wiki's now, and there is no clear way to do it. So I will see what can be done. I am thinking that giving the level it happened at, will reduce the issue, and then directions/events related would do it. I'll try to come up with this tonight, then we can discuss this.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  04:02, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
Sure thing. I should be on tonight doing my latest episode edits. Mrmichaelt 04:25, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
Please give feedback or edit my sandbox.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  05:15, December 1, 2011 (UTC)
Looks good! Let's add it to the Reference Guidelines. Mrmichaelt 05:53, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Spun off from Library ghost

It is Harold that said the stuff that suggests it wont be. Dan is the mother of the Ghostbusters franchise and Harold is the father, based on how they act. I put a lot more faith in Harolds comments than Dans. Harold never claimed it was canon anyway I've seen yet, and Dan may have, but he says are lot of things that end up not happening. Gotta admit it, he does.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:30, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Back from summer to winter 2009 at least, Dan Aykroyd, Ivan Reitman, and Harold Ramis talked about TVG and GBIII together and how TVG influenced it. I know Paul has it all well documented on Spook Central, but one I remember well enough was "screenwriters Eisenberg and Stupnitsky had been influenced by events in this upcoming game, and that some game elements are in their current story outline." Yeah, that was 2 years ago and things can change but that's where I was coming from. Hey, if they renamed Ecto-2 to Ecto-1a and made Slimer friendlier in GBII... To be honest, I wasn't very cognizant of tracking news online until I joined the wiki and posted stuff for the IDW comics. Mrmichaelt 09:04, December 5, 2011 (UTC)
Been reading about ghostbusters 3 since 1997. I don't believe much. lol  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  09:12, December 5, 2011 (UTC)
Ha ha! That's why we're not clicking on this. Well, I agree to disagree tonight. Mrmichaelt 09:30, December 5, 2011 (UTC)
I wont deny I want everything to work out tho. I am in the group that want a gb3 with or without bill, and a new team... sure. Wish they just do it already.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  09:49, December 5, 2011 (UTC)
I agree. I think they were even musing about they should make it on the RGB commentaries a couple times. I think it was Joe Medjuck that half jokingly asked JMS to write it. Even though its been done on Extreme Ghostbusters and Sanctum of Slime, I'm eager to see this legacy story get done already, too. Mrmichaelt 10:00, December 5, 2011 (UTC)
I wish they'd seriously ask J. Michael Straczynski to play a part in the writing of the script. He wrote episodes that blew GB2 out of the water for heaven sakes.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  10:04, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

GB2:jrnovel

Check your deviantart notes.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  06:18, December 7, 2011 (UTC)


Have a Happy Holiday

Just so you feel acknowledged.

SonofSamhain 15:41, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Happy holidays to you, as well. Mrmichaelt 03:44, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

I will Not be online tomorrow night

I have a family get together and its the type that I have to stay over night somewhere to go to. I will not be online tomorrow night, and I may be gone the next night too. Anyways, thought you should know.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:25, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try to be online a little longer. It goes without saying, but I'll likely be absent on New Year's Eve. Mrmichaelt 08:30, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
Well it is the holidays. So who knows. We could always clean up everything next year.  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:33, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
(Looks at your last sentence) Ha! ha! <Groan> No way. 'Tis the season! ;) Mrmichaelt 08:47, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
Well you know that troll that went to Chicago back in 1986?....!  Devilmanozzy (Talk Page)  08:51, December 30, 2011 (UTC)
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